Protest Against Readmission Hearing Scheduled for March 13th

Written by Major Qwik on February 25th, 2015

The hand says it all.

With over 1300 people invited on Facebook and YikYak buzz aplenty, you’ve likely heard about the Readmission Hearing Protest by now, but just in case, you haven’t, here it goes…

On Friday, March 13th, at 2:00pm, the school will holding a hearing for the readmission of a student convicted of three violations of Skidmore’s Sexual Misconduct Policy (who had thereby been suspended from campus for a year), which both the student in question and his victim will be attending. As a response to the hearing–in addition to the perpetrator’s violation of his sanctions when he visited campus last weekend–the victim is holding a peaceful and silent protest that same day at 1:00pm, right before the hearing begins, in the space right outside Gannett.

I suggest you check out the message from the victim in the Facebook event, as she has some important things to say about why she’s holding the protest and what she hopes to achieve with it that I simply cannot adequately paraphrase or summarize, that being said, here’s a brief excerpt from the event description:

This is not just about me.
This is about what Skidmore stands for as a community.
This is about anyone who has ever been affected by sexual violence, directly or indirectly.
This is about the administration failing to commit to me, and failing to commit to the safety of our student body.
We should not be focused on accepting rapists back into our community; we should be focused on how best to support and protect the people that deserve to be in our community.

There is also a GoFundMe page where you can donate any amount of money to support the protest, which will go toward making t-shirts for those in attendance.

I know this is going to evoke strong responses from many people on both sides of the matter. There’s no getting around it. But there is denying that this is an issue that plagues the Skidmore campus and student body. And there never has been. Quite literally, as I was typing this very post, I received an email about a reported case of sexual misconduct from earlier this month. What the fuck.

Now, maybe you’re going to really get behind this and show up ready to send a message to the administration. Maybe you’re not. Maybe you’re busy, or maybe you just don’t really care enough to dedicate a couple hours to a cause like this. I don’t know.

But let me ask you this: When is this shit going to become important enough for you to do something? How many more fucking emails from Lori Parks do we have to get? How many more stories do we have to hear about our classmates either being sexually violated or sexually violating people? When is it going to change?

Sure, SGA has shown that they’re taking initiative to create a space that feels safe to every member of this campus, and the college has revamped its Sexual and Gender-Based Misconduct Policy. This is all well and good, but all these initiatives are really only successful if the student body is willing to demonstrate that we demand change–because right now whatever we have in place just isn’t working.

No one should be raped. End of story. And we should all be striving toward creating a community that is anything but conducive toward such heinous and intolerable violations of basic human rights. And we should destroy whatever sense of tolerance or complacency we have toward this larger issue. I’m guilty of such complacency myself. Every time I hear about something like this, I get heated and feel sick, but as time passes, I ease back into apathy or get the feeling that I really can’t do anything to stop this. But now there’s a chance to do something–a chance for your rage, frustration, and grief to be embodied in a clear demonstration of where our values lie as a collective student body. A chance for us to indicate whether the Skidmore student is the type of person who actually does something or the type to stifle our sense of empathy and justice.

As of this past October, there were 85 schools under federal investigation for their mishandling of sexual assault cases. It’s easy to peg that as an administrative issue–something that is totally out of the student’s hands. But I don’t really think that’s fully the case. And if you don’t want to see Skidmore end up on this list–and, more importantly, if you’re just infuriated and filled with sorrow that any number of people have had to go through this form hell–I suggest you do something.

And if you have the impulse to be a fuckboy in the comments section in any way, I’m just going to delete it. So I recommend you save it.

And, of course, I offer my deepest support for the victim and her courage in arranging this protest. I hope you can do the same.

 

100 Comments so far ↓

  1. Some Man says:

    I’d like to know more about the case, I feel like this student would not be allowed to come back to campus if the case was as cut and dry as this article claims, was the student in question brought to real court and not skidmore’s joke of a system? Why isn’t the student in prison if he committed this straight up crime. There is a lack of information in general, how was the students only punishment a year of suspension if he was found in violation of a felony?

    • Reina Kiefer says:

      I would like to take this opportunity to speak for myself. I know it’s shocking. How could a student, found responsible of RAPE, be suspended from school for ONLY a year? It’s really shocking. It’s almost like you can’t believe it, right? Imagine how I’ve felt for the past nine months. This story IS true, and that’s why I’m speaking up about it. Many people have extremely naive views of the way in which schools deal with these cases. Unless you have been through the reporting process, you can’t know how difficult it is to navigate. If you want to engage in a longer conversation with me about it, I would happy to answer every single one of your questions, because I guarantee you I have pursued every avenue. Just because it’s being talked about at Skidmore, doesn’t mean it’s not being pursued in the criminal justice system as well. If you truly feel what you wrote in the above message, you should attend the protest. A student found responsible for rape (in a “cut and dry” way) should not be allowed to resume his studies at school.

      • Some Man says:

        I find the lack of communication about these things by the school in general to be disgusting, I didnt mean to imply that I doubted you in any way, I just couldn’t believe that Skidmore would even consider readmitting someone who very clearly committed a heinous crime but I guess I was wrong. I will be supporting this protest and I hope it sheds more light on Skidmore’s frankly fucked up reporting system. Thanks for doing this.

    • Some Woman says:

      There are thousands of victims of rape whose attackers are never brought to justice because of the ineptitude of our bureaucratic judicial system. So many people get away with rape- and the fact that he hasn’t been immediately put on trial shouldn’t make you question the legitimacy of the victim’s story. Endless support and love to the victim of this atrocious crime, and to all the others who are fighting the similar battles

    • Executive Editor says:

      Well, there’s been an ongoing debate for quite a while now over whether colleges and universities should be allowed to use their own judicial system in issues of sexual assault or whether they should just hand over such responsibilities to the criminal justice system. There’s also ample evidence to show that both systems tend to be pretty inadequate and often leave many dissatisfied with the results. The current situation is really all sorts of shitty.

      Not saying that the following links are 100% thorough on the matter, but they might provide insight into why shit like this can happen.

      http://knowyourix.org/why-schools-handle-sexual-violence-reports/

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/breakingthesilence/

      http://www.npr.org/blogs/ed/2014/11/30/366348383/the-history-of-campus-sexual-assault

      http://time.com/3686617/the-vanderbilt-rape-case-will-change-the-way-victims-feel-about-the-courts/

    • Concerned Individual says:

      The victim states on the Facebook page the exact charges that the student in question was faced with and he was found guilty of all of those by Skidmore after an investigation. This isn’t a question about whether or not he’s guilty–he is. Rape is a VERY a difficult thing to prove (as it usually occurs in private) and the victim did so to the satisfaction of the school, which should be enough to assure you that this incident did in fact occur. Skidmore isn’t looking to willy nilly suspend students without proof. Among other potential reasons the victim didn’t take this to court, the court process for such cases is emotionally traumatizing and incredibly expensive.

  2. Kangaroo Court says:

    he was found guilty of all of those by Skidmore after an investigation.

    by Skidmore after an investigation.

    by SKIDMORE

    This guy is being crucified for something that ultimately the police have declined to pursue, not because of their support of the patriarchy, but because there is no evidence. This is word against word. The word of a sweet, nice girl against a *big, scary, nasty* man. There are grey areas here that are not being addressed. Skidmore college is not a court. Their investigation is most certainly flawed at best and in support of the victim. We are setting a precedent here, and it is a dangerous one. Don;t support this well-intentioned vitriol.

    • Major Qwik says:

      Fuckboy alert.

      Honestly, though. He’s being crucified? He’s the victim? If you actually paid attention to the discussions surround this issue and many, many others like it, you’d be able to see that this isn’t about one poor little dude. It’s really about the college and how it handles situations like this and how victims are prioritized in the fall out. Quit making this some fucking talking point for the NCFM. It’s not about you.

      It’s simple. Allow me to attempt to squeeze it through your skull. The college found the dude to be guilty after an investigation. Of a crime committed on this campus, by one student to another student. They dished out some sanctions (even though they really weren’t followed), but are entertaining the notion of letting him back on campus.

      Clearly, this indicates that the college needs to reassess how seriously they take such a crime, because the school’s job is to do what it takes to ensure that any breach in the safety of the community is addressed and dealt with. Many, many people feel that allowing a convicted (by the college) rapist back on campus while the victim still calls this place home (and still feels the long-last effects of this assault on her safety and well-being) is deeply, deeply problematic.

      This isn’t about making ruining this guy’s life or torturing him. It’s about sending a message to the school that they need to rethink how they perceive crimes like this.

    • Anonymous says:

      Uhhh… Who said the police have declined to pursue it? I wouldn’t assume things you cannot know.

  3. Krista Lamoreaux says:

    This is awful. You are harming someone else’s life because of a lie you told for attention

    • Major Qwik says:

      I’m really not sure whether you’re really brave or really stupid for having your name attached to shit like this.

    • umm says:

      Seriously? Why would you call a rape victim a liar?

    • just wondering says:

      jw what it’s like to be a retard

    • A fellow victim says:

      How dare you call her a liar? You are obviously a privileged, sheltered little girl who has NEVER been made to do anything she didn’t want to, except maybe not go to some fancy party because your daddy said no.

      You have no idea what it feels like to be violated, to be held down and have someone else push themselves inside of you. To feel them on your skin and mouth and have their teeth and nails draw blood. What the fuck is wrong with you?

      Yes, there are woman who have lied about this, and they are sick and twisted. But so are people like you, who are so afraid or confused by somebody else’s pain that you try to demean it in an attempt to make yourself feel better.

      Either get your priorities straight and start supporting our people, or you can go and fuck yourself.

      • *Trigger warning for above comment* says:

        While I appreciate the sentiment of what you’re saying, your comment DEFINITELY warranted a trigger warning. That kind of vivid, descriptive language regarding assault can be incredibly harmful to victims. Please be more careful next time.

        • *Trigger warning part 2* says:

          I NEED MORE TRIGGER WARNINGS HERE!!!!! So many triggers, so few warnings. #triggerwarnings #trigger #warnings

    • Asfgjebosn$:!93 says:

      Wow you’re in one of my classes and I thought you were a nice person but clearly I was wrong this is a horrifying comment to make Krista, whether or not you are on the victim or the assailants “side” this comment is completely uneducated and disgusting.

    • Genuinely Shocked says:

      I honestly cannot believe I just heard someone say that. Krista Lamoreaux, I didn’t know you before, but because of this comment I sincerely hope I never do. I’m really upset and disappointed someone could ever say something so ignorant and disgusting. Please – both for yourself and for our community – make an effort to educate yourself on sexual assault and its effects on the victims. Until then, stop.

    • Wow, you're an idiot. says:

      Normally, I would try to respond to idiocy with compassion, but you are just too far gone.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Just to give some perspective on how these proceedings work:

    A girl in my dorm at boarding school was raped by another student. She was bruised, she had a kit completed. She brought it to court. She had him, ON TAPE, admitting to the rape and choking her and begging for her forgiveness. But due to it being obtained by her during the proceedings without his knowledge it was deemed heresay and in admissible in court.

    The case was a horrific feat for her. They made her relive her scenario over and over. They had her lay in the room she was raped in and scream to prove that someone else in the apartment wasn’t able to hear it from another room. It was extensive, she had all the proof, he was guilty, and in the end she was forced to settle and he did some odd hours of community service and took an anger management seminar. No jail time. No nothing.

    The case was brought to the school disciplinary board as well, and he would have been allowed to stay had the head dean not intensely backed the girl and threatened to quit if the boy were allowed to stay.

    I hope this can show to those who just aren’t aware how much goes into these cases and how difficult they are to deal with.

  5. Katie Plowright says:

    I would like to point out that the girl is not focusing her attention nor her protest on the assailant. She is focusing her engery on the administrations failure to make the right choice. Let’s say she did do this for attention, and the school found him responsible for rape wrongfully… Why is our school not expelling people found responsible of rape? Also, why would anyone want this kind of attention? This is not about him. This isn’t even about her. This is about how school’s handle these issues.

    Love you R

    • Jess Tetu says:

      Even if the victim were pursuing the perpetrator rather than focusing on the administration, this would be TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE. This person should be in prison. Anything else, let alone even considering allowing this person back to Skidmore, is entirely unacceptable. Thanks to the bravery of the victim, who is able to take a deeply traumatizing personal event and use it as an opportunity for the public to demand justice, the student body has the opportunity to voice our support for her and for all victims, and to let the administration know that we will not accept casual mercy for a rapist, on any grounds.

  6. Confused Student says:

    First of all: please don’t delete any “fuckboy” comments. The administration is already being shitty about communication and talking about this kind of stuff. Let this be an open forum.

    With that out of the way…What the hell is going on? How have I not heard a single scrap of this before I got the Facebook invite? Of course I’d love to support someone who has undergone such traumatic experiences at the hands of an administration that could definitely stand to be more transparent but I know absolutely nothing about this matter and I feel that I speak for a large portion of the student body when I say that. This happened on our campus, a campus where I thought we talked about shit like this, and I’ve heard nothing about it. Again, I’m all for supporting transparency and accountability in matters like this but at the same time I don’t like getting riled up over things that I know absolutely nothing about.

    • A Friend says:

      It’s one thing to be a campus that talks about these issues, it’s another thing to be a campus that handles these cases properly. Our students and our administration are two very different populations. This girl needs support. Victim blaming/shaming is all too common in our world, but it doesn’t have to be here. The reason why she’s telling people now is because she doesn’t want people to have false ideas about how “well” Skidmore approaches these incidents.

    • Executive Editor says:

      You’re allowed to post dissenting or unpopular opinions. I would never stop anyone from doing that. But you’re not allowed to use this sure as a forum to spew hate speech. That’s all.

  7. alum says:

    Any idea why the link to the Facebook event isn’t working for me? Do you have to be a current Skid student, or invited to the event, to view it?

  8. Miles Calzini says:

    For those who say she is doi this for attention… Who would want the attention of an entire student body focused on them, criticizing their every move and doubting everything they say? What a silly argument. This girl is so so brave, and you should be supporting her or reexamining your morals. Shame on you.

  9. DIVEST EVERYTHING says:

    I’ll come to the protest *only* if the cotton in the t-shirts is organically sourced………….. and sure thing I’ll reschedule all of my exams and change my flights, but you have to cover the airline change fee. see you friday!

  10. asfkljbgafjklgn says:

    Unless you know the facts of the case you should not comment, as I do not and therefore will not. The politics behind campus sexual are incredibly charged right now. Law professors from top law schools such as Harvard and Penn have expressed issue with the way these college courts are run namely, the rights of the accused are pretty much thrown out the window, the standard for guilt is incredibly low (50.01%) and the courts are adjudicated by volunteers all of whom typically have a vested interest in seeing accused students of misconduct being found guilty. Colleges should not be handling cases involving crimes, especially when a crime as heinous as rape is alleged. All we have heard is commentary from one side and I believe that regardless of what we have heard from the victim there is more to this story than we as outsiders may know as there are two sides to every story.

  11. Not Bold Enough To Say says:

    *PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THING, then tell me what I’m doing wrong*

    I know this is a bold statement to make, but hear me out. It’s hard to forgive such a repugnant act. This pain has obviously moved from the victim to the whole Skidmore community. As a male, I will never know what it is to be raped or to be put in such a situation. Hell, I’m sure it’s something next to unforgivable. But I don’t think raising our pitchforks will delude the pain we all feel. If there’s one way to feel better from all this, it’s trying to see eye-to-eye with the offender and try to find forgiveness.

    Here’s the thing. The guy served his sanction. He had been suspended and should be welcomed back to the community. The whole readmission hearing is in place so that the victim can accept him, because if anyone should be welcoming him it should be her. This should be a time where we try to forgive his misgiving, not to shame him for his heinous crime. Like everybody in my criminology class agreed, we should be aiming to reincorporate criminals into society, not ostracize them.

    I don’t know much about the situation, but I doubt he’s as unrepentant and evil as everyone is making him out to be. He probably was drunk and took it way too far. We’ve all made mistakes, especially after drinking too much. And you know what, he should suffer the consequences, probably twice, thrice over. I’m sure this will show up on his criminal record and haunt him for years to come. Whether or not the consequences were enough is something to be discussed, but to parade this guy in front of the judging eyes of 500 of his peers will just crush him, if he isn’t crushed already. If anything, this is something to do in front of administration, not the offender. It’s for that reason that I won’t be coming to the protest.

    Yes I’m defending him. Call me the devil’s advocate, but I believe that people shouldn’t be judged by their actions. This guy made a fucking stupid decision; he’s going to live with it for the rest of his fucking life. And as much as he deserves it, I think he deserves at the very least a little pity.

    What this guy did is disgusting and deserves no respect out of any of us, but I feel we should be trying to move forward from this rather than crucifying him and making this incident into a symbol for injustice everywhere.

    • student says:

      I just pretty much disagree with everything you just said.

    • Morgan Freemans Voice says:

      First person who has said anything intelligent. Everyone else is so emotionally fueled its ridiculous. Thank you for viewing the situation in a bipartisan manner and looking to build from the ashes as opposed to mourning the ashes.

    • Reina Kiefer says:

      Once again, I would like to speak for myself. I really appreciate your comment here. I think what you have to say is incredibly important. And I do not feel that my assailant is a monstrous person, or “evil” as you said. I have done a lot of work to heal myself and with that healing has come a great deal of empathy. That is why I am focusing my protest on the choices the school has made. I, in no way, believe that my assailant should lose his right to education. But I do believe that he has lost his right to an education from Skidmore.

      But you’re right. You do not know a lot about the situation. If any of you would like to hear the full story from my perspective, please come to the FFFem Monologues performance on March 28th and 29th. I have written a monologue that tells my story in its entirety. I have tried, as much as possible, to keep the information I put online to the bare minimum of provable facts: I was raped. He was found responsible. He was suspended. And I believe he should be expelled. These are the facts. I’ve been very careful not to extrapolate or exaggerate.

      Also, I would like to make another important note. There is a massive difference between a drunken mistake, and premeditative rape. In fact, the two should not even be thought of in the same category. Rape is not sex. Rape is about power. And I guarantee you that this was not him making drunken mistake. It was not a “stupid decision.” The way in which he raped me was a choice. And to be honest, I pity my assailant greatly. To be capable of rape… To have to come to terms with the fact that you are capable of rape, and to have your academic institution confirm that. That’s big… To reiterate, I do pity this guy. And yes, he has to live with that for the rest of his life. I’ve worked very hard for very long to develop pity for this person, but forgiveness has not come yet. Perhaps in time, that is possible. Like I said, if you would like to engage further, please email me and I would be happy to explain the story in full detail. I have nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of.

      One more thing, no one is raising pitchforks. In fact, I’ve made a great deal of effort to advertise that this is a PEACEFUL and SILENT protest. This is not about intimidating my assailant, nor about intimidating the board. This is about the unification of our community under a massively important issue.

      Thank you for your comment. I really do appreciate your view on this.

      • Not Bold Enough To Say says:

        And thank you for clarifying some things. I’m glad you didn’t find my comment to be offensive as so many people have taken it. I’m so sorry for what you have gone through and, as I’m sure you’ve been told (and know) by now, you’re a very brave woman for stepping forward.

        I agree with everything you said. Now that I know premeditation was involved then I completely agree with the issue of expulsion. There is no place for somebody like that on our campus.

        Attending the protest though is still an issue for me. While I acknowledge that this is supposed to be a peaceful and silent protest, it’s hard to imagine the board and offender not feeling any sort of intimidation from the mass of students attending, even if they are silent. Any kind of protest imparts some sort of intimidation, and doing it at a hearing that is meant to be restorative justice seems way too off.

        That being said, while I will still not attend the protest because of the reasons above, believe me I will be there in spirit for the cause you and everybody else are espousing. As you have stated, this is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed. While I may not agree on the means, the ends are definitely worth the struggle.

        Thank you for your thorough reply, and I apologize I cannot bring myself out for a worthy cause. In a sense though, you’ve already made a groundbreaking change on campus with your story– people are talking about it. I sincerely hope this works in your favor and creates some real change.

      • Not Bold Enough To Say says:

        While I’m sure you understand where I’m coming from, let me give an analogy that might help others.

        I see this protest as similar to a pro-life protest outside of an abortion clinic. It makes sense that pro-lifers will protest outside such a building because it stands for the opposite of their belief. If they want to drive home their message, then that is the best place to protest.

        But what does this do? It intimidates the women entering and exiting the building. While they are aiming to push a message, they are unintentionally projecting their negative emotions on the persons entering and exiting. Sure, they are sometimes more direct with the women to make them feel like shit, but even their presence is enough to deter anyone. In some cases, I’m sure silence and passive aggressive glances are even more negatively taken, because it implies that there is something so awful in the protesters’ minds that it cannot be spoken.

        Protesting outside of a hearing that is supposed to be something to repair the harms of such an incident, while effective and hits to the heart of the problem, places the people within the hearing at an extremely tough place. While it’s easy to say that the example at the abortion clinic is wrong, it’s hard to acknowledge that the same tactic from our side is equally as disturbing. In my mind, it is.

        Once again, the cause is a good one, and one I believe in. If it were held anywhere else, such as Case center for that full day, then I would happily attend. I would wear the t-shirt with pride and join my peers on campus. But to have it right outside the meeting that is trying to do some good seems like an offense to the people who believe it to be the best course of action.

    • Paul says:

      What the fuck are you supposed to judge people by if not their actions?

  12. Disappointed Alum says:

    Having worked in the admissions office, I can confidently say that a lot of issues at Skidmore stem from a faulty admissions and interview proccess. Anyone who has been in admissions for 2+yrs knows this: the interviews are half-baked cakewalks that either focus on the privilege’s accomplishments or the challenges the non-privilege prospects have overcame. Additionally, there is NO vetting for any type of negative behavior, ignorant beliefs, or bashful unawareness. Additionally, the first-year orientation, Of course, it all stems from Dean Mary Lou Bates and her daughter-in-law running the admissions office- encouraging a micro-culture of unfounded, feel-good bliss. I really hope the student body realizes that the ENTIRE administration should be held accountable. Pull away the wool covering your collective eyes and realize that a handful of aloof sub-professionals are choosing your fellow so-called comrades. There is evidence enough for this conclusion and I think its about time that people start recognizing that evidence for what it is: rape.

    My thoughts are with the student body and I hope that even the “fuckboys” realize that rapists don’t deserve a degree from Skidmore.

    • Vested alum says:

      I too am an alum and I too worked in the admission office in multiple capacities including actually making decisions on applicants.

      Please do not slander Mary Lou Bates or her daughter-in-law (who does not have a high enough position to run the office). They had NOTHING to do with what this student did and frankly it seems like you have you own problems with them. In fact there are MANY students each year who ARE rejected for the exact reasons you say are ignored!

      No admission officers could ever possibly know what another person is capable of doing or WILL do in the future, and considering the fact that the vast majority of thoroughbreds are decent and normal people is a testament to that fact. There are problems, sure, but not the ones you mention.

      I do however completely agree that someone who rapes another person (male or female) does not deserve a degree from our awesome alma mater and I will be placing a call to the office of the president as soon as it opens this morning. As an alum, former employee, and donor I would hope that they hear me– if not, I will make sure to make a point to never donate again. I will be supporting the student body in any way possible.

      • Disappointed Alum says:

        It’s a shame that you’re advocating the status quo-it’s an even bigger shame that many like you refuse to hold all parties involved accountable. That being said- it’s understandable, as you yourself have a “vested” interest in your prior employer. I hope others reading your glib comment will realize it for what it is: A refusal of reality with a side of “I’m right because I was a part of their system and still give money.”

        There is clearly an issue in the admissions dept. To say that “No admission officers could ever possibly know what another person is capable of doing or WILL do in the future…” is not even worthy of being compared to an excuse. I think its sad that someone would suppose that the Dean of Admissions isn’t responsible for sexual violence on campus- doesn’t this type of thinking blunt the impetus of the support movement? That EVERYONE is responsible because Skidmore is a COMMUNITY?

        To further the conversation instead of veering into ad-hominem: would you- as a “vested” alum- support a data driven analysis of which admissions employees are admitting these types? Secondarily, would you admit that your comment “considering the fact that the vast majority of thoroughbreds are decent and normal people is a testament to that fact” is baseless and unfounded? How could you possibly know this? And please, do not cite personal experience.

        Again, current students who are following this should recognize the all-too-common “wool over the eyes” ignorance that all-too-many students and alum burden themselves with. I would take the above comments with a grain of salt considering that the poster is a former employee who likely has personal relationships with the nepotistic Dean and her superficial staff.

        I should add that I myself personally enjoyed the company of the admissions employees and think they are good people- including the Dean and family. My argument is not personal- it is professional. To describe my argument as the contrary (which you eloquently suggest) is a despicable attempt to introduce a red herring. I would suggest you save some face and try sticking to the argument.

        • who are you, disappointed? says:

          Disappointed alum,

          I am extremely confused by the point which you are trying to make. While I too believe that many departments of the college are at fault for mishandling sexual assault cases, it does not seem possible for an admissions interviewer to be able to vet future abusers. Are you suggesting we begin to profile people? To make those who were abused as children report that abuse as it has been shown that those who are abused have a higher chance at becoming abusers? Are you suggesting that applicants to the college undergo a psych eval? Even if every admissions officer was trained to identify persons with abusive traits, so many abusers don’t act pre meditatively, and would thus not show these traits.

          Why you have chosen the admissions office while there are so many other offices that need to shape up their policies to protect and serve the students that are already on our campus is beyond me. That is perhaps why the previous responder believed yours to be a personal vendetta.

          • Disappointed Alum says:

            Hello “who are you, disappointed?”,

            Firstly, let me apologize for being unclear; perhaps I can elucidate my point through your excellently posed solution-based questions. My thoughts on the matter are that every student’s relationship with the Skidmore community officially begins at Admissions and ends (or continues in perpetuity) at Alumni Services. I think that the only true path towards meaningful change in the community is to share the responsibility throughout every facet of the administration. The reason why I single out admissions is because I have the most experience and evidence working in that office and I have observed the business culture there. The complacency that exists in admissions manifests itself through interaction between the managers (The dean and her daughter) and their employees (the admissions officers and the tour-guides). I strongly believe that many students see admissions through rose-colored glasses- to borrow the term- because of two reasons. One,the physical distance of the office creates a mental gap between admissions and every other on-campus admin office, which makes it easier to fall prey to the second reason: personal investment through the student body, which is accomplished through their hiring of eager and enthusiastic students. In a way, admissions has its own personal PR team through their tour guides. Insincerity is rampant in admissions: an irrelevant example is what tour guides are trained to respond when asked, “What is the worst thing about Skidmore?” The preferred answer a-la management? “The worst thing is that there are too many things to do and not enough time!” Yes, it is irrelevant, but it proves that a capacity for complacent dishonesty exists. Are there worse departments? Yes. I chose not to discuss them here because the hearing is a reADMISSION hearing. Not a reOSDP hearing, not a re-registration hearing. Additionally, I would be interested in the employee turnover rate in the admissions office sans guides- I think that a 2 year limit on interviewer employment would help repudiate the status-quo I so vitriolically assert. I hope my extrapolations clarify why I think many students and alum turn a blind-eye towards admissions but I would rather discuss the much more valuable topic: solutions.

            Probably the easiest way to reduce on-campus sexual violence is to simply admit less students. If indeed as you posit sexual violence is understood statistically, then reducing the class size would mean a reduction in the number of cases. Simply put- less students means less capacity for these types of behavior. I think SKidmore can afford this as the acceptance rate hovers around 35%. However, such an answer is inexpensive in my own opinion and doubt that it will satisfy you.

            Probably the better answer is what you warily suggest: litmus tests. Now, believe you me, these types of vetting processes are fascistic in nature (that will give you a hint as to my identity if you know me well enough) but many organizations use them, including but not limited to: Psychiatry, Fortune 500 companies, Prison Systems, and et cetera. In the professional world, people invest a lot of time and money into how employees behave and react to certain situations- I do not see why admissions cannot employ such tactics. My preference would be a double-blind in which both the interviewee and interviewer are oblivious to the study.

            I never intended to offer solutions and I do not believe that mine are the best, or nearly even good enough. Rather, my goal was to draw more attention to an ineffective department that gets a pass far too often. However, I do believe that solution-driven discourse is a much more healthy and productive means of argument. I hope that others reading these comments will contribute with their own ideas and hopefully there can be some progress on this issue.

      • Friend of the Survivor says:

        Please make that call. Thank you.

  13. That Guy says:

    Skidmore has no business running a court or imposing a sanction of any kind not connected to an investigation by the justice system. If you actually believe, as you say, that rape is a serious crime, go to the police. Go to the court system. We have a Constitution and institutions designed to fairly consider criminal matters. If someone at Skidmore was murdered no one would suggest that it be forwarded to Skidmore’s cute little disciplinary board.

    It is a fundamental tenet of our society that no one should be punished for a crime that they have not been convicted of IN A COURT OF LAW by a jury of their peers, having been given a fair opportunity to present evidence and mount a defense.

    The fact that students at myriad liberal arts colleges have sought to dilute this basic human right shows that they are either not being taught the laws and values of a liberal democracy, or they have created a culture that does not respect them. This is incredibly dangerous. I might add that said students have continued to pursue this despite several recent high-profile cases in which supposed rapists were exonerated, but not after being publicly shamed by their universities and in front of millions of people. (Rolling Stone comes to mind.)

    Rapists are also incredibly dangerous. Again, that is why we have a criminal law system.

    As you construct a reply to this post, I would like to remind you that being offended does not make you right.

    • *heavy sigh* says:

      Just because we have a criminal justice system does NOT mean that it functions in the way it’s supposed to!!!!!! Criminals go free ALL THE TIME! And rape is SO hard to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt” because it’s often he said she said. So consider that please.

      • That Guy says:

        So your solution to the courts sometimes not working correctly, is to create an even more broken parallel harlequin court system run by the colleges, throw thousand-year-old tenets of due process out the window, and declare everyone accused of rape guilty until proven innocent. Then put them through a fake “court” with lower formal evidentiary standards than many third-world dictatorships. Yes, this all sounds quite fair, just, and consistent with our morals as Americans.

        “It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer” – William Blackstone, 1765.

        • *heavy sigh* says:

          Sometimes not working correctly? HA! You’ve got to be kidding me. You actually believe that every person accused of rape is found guilty? That’s a fucking joke. Do you have any idea how DIFFICULT it is to get GUILTY people in trouble these cases?

          It is NOT a solution to simply turn students accused of sexual misconduct over the police. That should be included in reporting it to the school. I agree that our insinuation is not a criminal justice system, but you are proposing is extremely foolish. We would twice the amount of rapists walking around campus with your bright idea.

      • That Guy says:

        One more thing: The alleged victim in this case is being incredibly irresponsible by attempting to have the suspect convicted in the court of public opinion instead of hiring a lawyer and going to court.

        • *heavy sigh* says:

          One more thing: how do you know she hasn’t gone to the police? I bet you’ve never even talked to this girl. Don’t assume things you don’t know.

  14. Anon Girl says:

    I was sexually assaulted. I’m a girl. Any kind of sexual misconduct is enough to make anyone feel like they don’t belong or have no friends-no matter how untrue that may be. But to deny this boy Readmission as a consequence of his past wrong doings, especially when he has had a year to think, probably get help, and live with the fact he hurt people, then becomes a problem in itself. It’s discriminatory. I get if people want to protest Readmission to ‘stand’ against sexual misconduct but that’s not doing anything to solve what may happen. By ‘standing’ against this guy who may be readmitted,or may not be, you make him a victim of the hate he has already been feeling for the past year.
    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it’s a good idea to let someone back in, in lieu of the hurt he has caused because of these problems in the past. But why not give him a chance? We don’t know what the committee will say. We don’t know if they will give him legal consequences for breaking a rule. We also don’t know how long he will continue to thrive here if he does come back. Many times these people convicted of this crime cease to have friends or anyone who likes them. Isn’t that punishment enough?
    Go ahead and protest. But it won’t do anything. Instead try to change what kids know about sexual misconduct. Get information on what constitutes each misconduct and don’t yell ‘rape’ because you’ve been violated or you feel guilty about something you’ve done. I’m a victim of a sexual assault and I say with the utmost sincerity that a sex crime is extremely serious…not a mistake. You’ll know when you’ve been involved in a misconduct because your life stops and everything…I mean EVERYTHING… Else in the world begins to spin out of control. If you see something in progress. Just step in. It’s not that simple but really. Trying is better than not and it can’t make the situation worse for the victim.

    Think about it.

    • SkidAnon says:

      Re: “Why not give him a chance?”
      Because the victim has made it clear she doesn’t want him on campus. It doesn’t matter if he’s gotten help and ~changed~, he traumatized her and there is absolutely no reason that she should be forced to see him around campus–somewhere that is supposed to be a safe space. “It’s discriminatory”? Uh, he is an adult and has to deal with the consequences of his actions. This should not even be up for discussion. I’ll be at that protest.

    • Also A Survivor says:

      You’re saying that you would willingly accept your rapist back into your daily life? It’s been years since my first assault and I still could not arrive at that step of forgiveness..

    • Someone says:

      imo, if the guy has had time to think, and he realizes he did something terrible and wants to better himself, then that’s great. I also think he’s totally capable of doing it in some other location where he will not be emotionally traumatizing anyone with his presence. He will have opportunities, but his opportunities can’t come at the expense of someone else’s mental well-being and safety.

  15. Wants to do the right thing says:

    Is there anywhere that we can get more information, besides the Facebook group? Like a campus safety report or a committee report or something? I just want to be as informed as possible before the protest.

    • Anonymous says:

      What type of information? Like about the case? Because we’re not here to decid whether or not the conditions are sufficient for rape.. Cause, like, it’s clear that she was raped. It’s so hard to convict people of this stuff, and I find it pretty unlikely that the school wrongfully found him responsible.. I mean even when there’s tons of evidence it’s so hard to prove.

      Also, I think there are rules about confidentiality and giving out official reports. We have to remind ourselves that while this girl has gone public about her story, she still has a right to some privacy, as does the assailant. Also, it would kind of intense to post the entire report online… I don’t really think people should have access to that. But I do see your point, more info. would be good.

  16. More to it than meets the eye says:

    Talk about one sided injustice. No one really knows what happened behind those doors or the true intention of the woman in this case. UVA and rolling stone ring a bell? Believe it or not there are many people out there that would sacrifice the lives of others for their own personal gain.

    Freedom of speech is a great constitutional privilege but there are limitations. Speech that involves incitement, false statements of fact, obscenity, threats, and speech owned by others are all completely exempt from First Amendment protections. This woman’s comments without fact are slanderous and libelous. If I were her I would be very cautious.

    Skidmore suspended this man for 1 year. He was not convicted of rape. Certainly, if this act was as heinous as it is being portrayed the individual would have been expelled. There is more to this case than what is being publicized by the woman in this one sided statement of this case.

    Was this a violent, physically injuring act forcing this woman into submission or did she in fact participate in any way? We really don’t know, do we.

    There are a lot of unanswered questions and this poor guy is being hung out to dry without an opportunity to defend himself. And please, don’t tell me he had his chance in Skidmore’s kangaroo court. The Title IX system of conduct hearings is the biggest mockery of due process and any form of a judicial system as you will ever see.

    • Someone Who Knows Her Side says:

      You really are missing the point here. Rape does not have to be physically violent or injurious to be rape. And I guarantee you there is a hell of lot you don’t know about this case, so I wouldn’t assume anything unless YOU can prove it.

    • Anon says:

      “Certainly, if this act was as heinous as it is being portrayed the individual would have been expelled.”

      …You have faith in your school, don’t you? Do your research.

  17. More to it than meets the eye says:

    Someone who knows her side. Actually, violence is the very core of a rape. So let’s not use the term loosely. It has nothing to do with lust or sex or physical intimacy. If he were found responsible of a violent crime he wouldn’t be getting a readmit hearing. This poor guy is actually the one being raped here. Not physically but certainly emotionally. BTW, someone who knows her side, what exactly can YOU prove?

    • Someone says:

      It’s a little interesting that you say not to use the term “rape” loosely, and then immediately do just that when you claim the perpetrator is being “emotionally raped.” If you don’t want to use it loosely, don’t use it to describe things that aren’t raped.

      Re: “if he was found responsible for a violent crime he wouldn’t be getting a readmit hearing” – I’m not sure why that’s implausible to you. A lot of schools have pretty inadequate policies on sexual misconduct, often because they don’t want those bad statistics to hurt their applicant pool in the future.

  18. Community member says:

    I’m not a student; I’m a community member hearing about this for the first time. Frankly I’m pretty shocked that Skidmore would even consider letting this student back in.

    One – the college should have a higher standard of integrity and student conduct. A student who commits such a serious violation (and is found responsible via the student justice system) should never be allowed back on campus.

    Two – he’s a major liability. If he comes back on campus and rapes someone else (and many rapists are serial offenders), that is a huge lawsuit waiting to happen.

    Three – it’s highly traumatic to the person who suffered through this violent act in the first place. Making her attend a hearing about his re-admittence when she has made her feelings already known about it is disgusting.

    Sadly, this type of piss-poor bureaucratic handling of sexual assault seems to be all too common at colleges and universities these days. I would have thought Skidmore would be better, given their legacy as a women’s institution.

  19. Emma Harris says:

    This protest is supposed to be in an effort to enact change on campus, but I feel as if the responses being written on the side of Reina’s defense are way too concerned with making the public know that she was raped. That has become the circling issue here, and its quickly and unfortunately straying from the more important goal. For example, Anonymous wrote, “Because we’re not here to decid whether or not the conditions are sufficient for rape.. Cause, like, it’s clear that she was raped,” but in the public’s defense it is not clear. And because this readmission hearing has been brought to the public, we can’t just shut down questions that may seem rude to you if you’re Reina’s support. This is because the reality is that we genuinely do not know the facts of the case and what took place that night simply because we weren’t there. Thats the truth, not us being ignorant. I don’t want to speak for everyone who may be questioning the circumstances of this protest or even the sexual assault itself, but I would like to jump and say that we agree with you that rape is hard to prove with no evidence. And thats the problem, not just in this particular case, but in any. With the majority of rape cases there is a large grey area that causes a lot of ambiguity, and that is why a lot of the people invited to the ‘Readmission Hearing Protest’ facebook page are struggling. At least that is why I’m struggling. As an outsider who really wants to affect change, I am genuinely torn with what to do. I feel as though by supporting the protest I am only somewhat advocating that I want systematic change, and mainly advocating for Reina and her story. I feel as though by supporting the protest I am making an example out of a potentially not guilty man and ruining his opportunity to learn and then graduate, and that should be an expected feeling from the people who don’t know the facts. I can’t just automatically assume that the victim’s story is true in any situation, no matter how horrid or terrible, when I have absolutely no idea of the other side. That doesn’t make me a bad person, it just makes me a person who wants to know more.

    Reina wrote in her facebook group, “Ask yourself, do you really want to graduate with a rapist?” That really made me think, and then I realized that I could replace the word rapist with homophobe, cheater, bully, etc and ask everyone the same question. As much as the facebook group states that this is for the ‘Skidmore Community,’ it is clearly to protest against the male and for Reina. We are not going to affect systematic change in this way because it is too centralized on this one incident, an incident too ambiguous for even strong advocates against rape to support. The bigger issue is changing policies on campus and getting the administration to wake the fuck up. T-shirts aren’t going to do that.

    I think so many passionate people have written in this commentary and that shows how important of an issue this is to our student body. We should have an open forum in front of the administration, or an open forum just for the Skidmore community, so we can seriously discuss this issue. Not the issue of Reina’s story, but the issue of sexual misconduct in general and more importantly on our campus. Feuding comments behind fake names on Skidmore Unofficial’s page aren’t going to get us anywhere as a community, so we need to figure out something beneficial that will.

    • EN105 is your friend says:

      “That really made me think, and then I realized that I could replace the word rapist with homophobe, cheater, bully, etc and ask everyone the same question.”

      Duuuude. No. Just no. Do NOT put rape on the same plane as these other moral deficits. Sure, you’re right that we don’t know the facts of the case but your very lengthy post fails to say much other than “we don’t know if he actually raped her” and “Reina is making this about too personal.”

      What we do know is that the Skidmore administration found this particular person guilty of violating the Sexual Misconduct Policy in the most profound way. The Skidmore administration concluded that this person failed the community on its very core standards of safety and respect. Somebody who is found guilty of such violent transgressions of our community standards should not be allowed to continue to be part of our community. Whoop-dee fucking do if the they seek moral reform elsewhere but their time at Skidmore, as being part of OUR community is DONE.

      If you have a problem with how those hearings go and think you can remedy shortcomings, then become part of the policy committee, become a part of the Center for Sex and Gender Relations. These discussions about Sexual Misconduct ARE happening, you should seek them out in a productive way if you dislike Skidmore Unofficial’s forum so much.

  20. More to it than meets the eye says:

    Someone I agree. Should not be using the term rape so loosely. Perhaps we should all stop it.

    Community member is obviously a complete buffoon. He/she knows nothing about this case and to judge any of the parties involved is completely irresponsible. Shut the fuck up. You sound like an idiot.

    I applaud Emma Harris. We don’t know anything about this case. The only thing I know for sure is that this man is being publicly crucified by a body of people that do not know any of the circumstances of this case.

    Frankly, this whole protest and blog and everything else associated with this witch hunt is a total embarrassment to the Skidmore community. We’re a libertarian college and this whole scenario is one of the most blatant insults to civil liberties I have ever seen.

  21. Reina Kiefer says:

    I have tried to refrain from posting much commentary here, for I feel that this isn’t the best place to have this discussion. But I would like to say a couple things.

    Please stop making it sound like I am asking everybody to hate him. I am not asking people to do this. Please, please, please stop making me into that person. This is not about him.

    I do not need to convince anyone that I was raped. I know that I was. Having your seal of approval will not change what I have experienced in the last ten months of this very long healing process.

    Please read this next part slowly:
    I wish that someone could sit me down and explain to me that I was NOT raped.
    I wish that someone could logically prove that the whole experience really was just a huge mistake.
    I wish that what happened to me wasn’t rape.

    I spent a long time trying to convince myself of all those things. But in the end, pain demands to be felt. And I guarantee you, I was raped.

    • A clinician who treats male and female perpetrators and victims of violence says:

      I am sorry for your pain. I hope that your public advocacy helps you heal. I am glad that you and others are confronting the problem publicly, because that will accelerate the changes that are needed, not only at Skidmore, but in the larger culture.

  22. A very concerned alum says:

    The Hunting Ground is a documentary about rape on campuses…. These are the same people who filmed a documentary about rape in the military. They were not intending to make this film about campuses but so many people came up to them after the screenings of the military film to say the culture was very similar to what exists on college campuses; the filmmakers felt obligated to make the film. They were shocked by what they found out. Here’s a quote from the film: “Schools [are] waiting to be under investigation, waiting for a reason to finally do their job. And it’s sad because most of these students are teenagers when they’re impacted. You’d think that, when you have all these children being impacted by their college journey, you’d think that institutions would care more. You’d think they’d actually care about your safety. But in most cases, you’re just a public relations case.” Here’s a link to an article about the film: http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2015/02/28/3628311/new-documentary-reveals-universities-responses-rape-even-worse-think/

  23. A very concerned alum says:

    I believe you, Reina.

  24. Community member says:

    I believe you too, Reina.

  25. Reina, I believe and support you.

  26. A very concerned alum says:

    FYI: Senator Gillbrand will be going to some campuses in NY Sate to discuss campus safety: http://www.saratogian.com//general-news/20150302/gillibrand-students-to-discuss-campus-safety

  27. A concerned man says:

    You know there gets to a point during a hookup that the parties involved need to make some choices. I’ve been out, I’ve had multiple drinks and I’ve would up in my room with a woman who’s had a few as well. Then things begin to get going. There’s kissing, touching and clothes loosening. The clothes are starting to come off and while no waivers have been signed it is apparent that both parties are into it. Sex appears to be a strong possibility. The guy realizes that both parties are pretty wasted but the woman appears into it and even if she is shit faced you want to get laid. How many of you guys out there would say, You know I really want to have sex with you but I think you’ve had a bit too much to drink. I don’t think you are capable of giving me the appropriate consent, so we better stop. Be honest. How many women out there would blame the guy the next day for this? What’s even scarier is that even if the guy got consent, or if the woman was the initiator, the woman can say she didn’t remember giving consent or that she couldn’t possibly have given appropriate consent because she was too wasted. So Reina said in her publicized interview that she didn’t give consent but and I quote “even if I did it couldn’t have been effective consent.” So did she give the consent or didn’t she? It sounds like she’s really not sure. Maybe she did give consent or consent was assumed by her actions but she doesn’t remember. If you were this guy and you got something that indicated even a glimmer of consent would you pull your pants back up? Reina wants this guy out of school, but I think she really needs to think long and hard about the events of that night and ask herself if she would expect any guy to pull his pants back up under the circumstances. Is it possible that she could have given the indication even a glimmer of an indication that having sex that night was ok? A man’s life is at stake.

    • disgusted says:

      “I think she really needs to think long and hard about the events of that night and ask herself if she would expect any guy to pull his pants back up under the circumstances.”

      first of all, this is one of the most crude and repulsive sentences i have read about this topic. Reina has been dealing with this issue for ten months, as she previously stated. Do you really think that in those ten months this thought didn’t cross her mind? rape victims constantly try to justify and ignore the fact that they have been abused. was it her fault, could she have prevented it, why didn’t she fight back, etc…these are common thoughts that go through a victim’s head.

      the fact of the matter, which you for some reason can’t seem to grasp, is that this man, this PREDATOR, raped her, and she has since been trying to move on from a traumatic incident. the fact that you are attempting to justify his disgusting actions by comparing them to yourself or your friends in drunk situations is quite frankly pathetic. if you are unable to pull up your pants when involved with a clearly intoxicated girl, then perhaps you need to think long and hard about your own morals. just as any girl should do when in a situation with a very intoxicated boy.

      Reina wants this boy out of the school not because she wants to ruin his life, but because he has ruined a significant part of hers, and more importantly has broken school (and state) laws. this is not a cat fight between a bitter girl and an ex-lover, this is a fight for justice. NO ONE should have to pass by a known, convicted predator in the hallway on the way to class. so next time you go back with a girl that’s too drunk to effectively consent, maybe you should think about being a decent person and walking her home. if she wanted you then, she will surely want you if you respect her enough to let her make a sober decision.

      • another man says:

        I think the point of the other man is to point out that not everything is a perfect situation. If both people are drunk and both consent, how can one be held accountable for whether the other one was giving effective consent. Obviously, if someone is unconscious and someone has sex with them it is wrong however if you were both drunk and neither of you were passed out then how can one be held accountable for the other. I think what the other man is trying point out is that if she had consented in any way (since the statement kinda seems like it was possible she did) and they both were drunk, how can the burden fall onto him to know it was not effective consent. And don’t say he should have just known because frankly if they were both messed up and her judgement to say yes or no was impaired, so was his to know whether it was considered a good enough answer.

      • A thought says:

        What law has he broken exactly, and what was he convicted of? Nice try though.

  28. A concerned man says:

    Disgusted-This is a perfect example of how our generation of drunken hookupers (if that is a word) can go terribly wrong for both parties involved. Yes, I think there needs to be more mutual respect for intimacy and when it should happen. Yeah, its fun and its tough to control the urge but it does need to be controlled and saved for the appropriate circumstances. Yes, I feel that woman need to be protected but so do men.

    What bothers me about this case in particular is Reina’s comments. The more she talks, the more I realize that even she is not sure of what happened. In her interview she states that she didn’t even know she was sexually abused until she spoke with her fiends about it later in the day. Really? Why is that? If it was me it would pretty clear in my mind that I was physically abused. If someone punches me in the face, I’m not going to need a friend to tell me that I was attacked. Was she sure that she did not give any type of consent? It seems questionable from her statements in the interview. If there is a shred of doubt, and from what she stated there appears to be some doubt then this man should be exonerated.

    Men, be aware. Where were you this past weekend? You could easily be next.

    Frankly, I’d like to see a contingency of men and women at the protest with T-shirts that say Protect Men’s Rights. Do you feel that men’s rights should be protected as well?

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh fuck you. That’s all I have to say. Fuck you. You clearly have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.

  29. a friend says:

    For everyone who is questioning Reina’s credibility and saying that she “has doubts” about her story – you are wrong. The man drugged her, picked her up from the floor, carried her to his bed, took off her clothes, and raped her. She was not “too drunk to make a decision,” she was incapacitated due to him drugging her. For the record, she DID report it to the police, and the investigation is ongoing. Reina is no trying to ruin this man’s life, but the trauma he put her through is enough that he should not be able to traumatize her any more with his presence on this campus. You’re right, he has not been convicted of any crimes by the U.S. legal system, but Skidmore found him guilty of sexual touching and disrobing, sexual penetration, and sexual penetration by incapacitation. Just in case any of you were confused (because there seem to be some of you who are a bit slow), that’s also known as RAPE. And for everyone who has been commenting about Reina’s publicized interview, if you actually read it, you would know more facts than you claim to know.
    ^And “a concerned man”? All I have to say to you is you are uninformed and ignorant. Instead of warning men that women could accuse them of rape after a night of “bad decisions,” maybe we should be telling them not to rape women. If you truly believe that “men’s rights” need to be protected, you should look into the term “patriarchy.” Study up, it’ll probably be a hard concept for you to grasp, since you live in 1850.

  30. A very concerned alum says:

    If this perpetrator did violate sanctions and came onto campus, why wasn’t the Skidmore community alerted that there was a dangerous predator on campus? They locked the campus down one day at Skidmore because there was danger of a rapist entering Skidmore. This student was a KNOWN perpetrator that was found guilty by the college yet there were no reports of him being removed or the college being shut down! Since neither his name nor his picture were made public, it would make it easier for him to enter and exit campus and perpetrate again! If there is something I am missing here factually, please let me know!

    • Anonymous says:

      OMG THAT IS WHAT SHE IS PROTESTING!!! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE SCHOOL IS MESSED UP AND THAT’S WHY A PROTEST IS HAPPENING? Have you read anything about this issue at all?

      • A very concerned alum says:

        If you are commenting on my post, I think you have misread what I am saying. I am illustrating there is a HUGE DISCONNECT and I will be joining in the protest.

  31. Jim says:

    Maybe he didn’t violate the sanctions. There’s so much unsupported allegations being thrown around here. Drugged her? Skidmore is going to allow a guy that drugged someone, and raped them while they were unconscious back on campus? I don’t think so. What drug was found in the young lady? Was there even a drug test. This sounds like a whole bunch of made up propaganda. Reina either got in a shit load of trouble from a boyfriend after she cheated on him or she found someone to sacrifice for her own activist agenda, which she clearly has. I just don’t believe her story. Sorry.

    • A very concerned alum says:

      The school found him guilty of drugging and raping her. Just read the news coverage – he was found guilty on three counts and they describe exactly what they are. You are in denial and YOU are the one making unsubstantiated allegations about her motivations.

    • Anonymous says:

      Your comments are horrifying and ignorant.

  32. A very concerned alum says:

    This college expelled two students for racist behavior yet Skidmore cannot expel a student for RAPING someone. UGH!

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/national/2-university-of-oklahoma-students-expelled-over-racist-video/ar-AA9A7T3

  33. Jim says:

    There was nothing in the news coverage supporting Reinas story of drugging, only Reina saying she was drugged. No where did Reina say the school found him guilty of drugging and raping. She did say that the school found him responsible for breaking their sexual misconduct code. Probably the only supportable fact of her entire tantrum. This is a perfect example of ignorant mob mentality at its finest.

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